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Mar 08

Are we mature enough for TheServerSide Symposium (.NET and Java)

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The old chestnut of “Java vs. .NET” has reared its head again (e.g. Java vs. Microsoft .Net debate rages).

I actually wished that one of the instant audience polls would have been:

How would like like TheServerSide to include other technologies outside of Java?

  • Only Java Tech please! This is your niche! Have a TSS.NET conference for that stuff
  • Other fringe tech, but from the point of view of an enterprise Java guy
  • I have to work in a heterogenous environment, so would love a hard core .NET track. Besides. I don’t have to go :)

The reason I mention this, is that I think the community has chilled out from the days of “oh man, I hope .NET doesn’t take over!”.

Now, several years have passed, and J2EE is doing fine. .NET is doing fine too. We can live in harmony ;)

These days, a lot of developers work in the world of both Java and .NET. In fact, what does it even mean to be an “enterprise Java developer”.

Why, just today I wrote SQL, Java, JavaScript, ruby, Groovy, bash, and had to look at XML. Hardly Java only :)

Now the politics has died down, I think there is a lot to gain by having a conference where the camps mix. I enjoyed my time at MS Tech Ed last year, and learnt a few things.

Are we ready?

8 Responses to “Are we mature enough for TheServerSide Symposium (.NET and Java)”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    “The old chestnut of “Java vs. .NET” has reared its head again” …..only because you brought it up! A .NET and Java conference only saves the conference organizer money. Most programmers use one or the other. If you combined them into one conference, I probably wouldn’t see enough benefit in attending – especially at TSS conference prices!

  2. Aslak Hellesoy Says:

    People in the Java community are finally starting to explore alternative programming languages.

    I’d be happy if TSSS opened up for a broader set of topics. You’d lose the narrow-minded bigots, but you’d also attract more of the open-minded ones.

    It can only make for a better conference, as long as you get good speakers.

  3. Roustem Karimov Says:

    I think it is time for TSS (.NET and Java) Symposium.

    This year conference had just a few really new sessions (Ajax and P2P clustering were among the most interesting and they were not only about Java). Adding .NET (and maybe other web application technologies like Rails) would certainly help to bring new ideas to the conference.

    Yes, it is nice to visit Vegas once a year but without new ideas I’d have to look for a different conference next time.

  4. Floyd Marinescu Says:

    As co-organizer (with Dion) of the editorial at the conference, I am confused by peoples perceptions that there are few new topics. TSSJS is a community event, and it’s topics reflect what’s going on in the community. The fact that there were few new topics reflects that fact that in the Java community itself, there is not that much new going on. So, our goal is to make sure our topics are as comprehensive as possible, and then we pick the most authoritative speaker possible for those topics. I’m not sure how to address peoples perceptions that not enough is changing year on year. Imagine that topics are classes and presentations are instances/objects. The objects change every year, and I think we have the most comprehensive set of classes of any Java related event.

    So how do address the perception that not enough is new?

  5. rd Says:

    Lots of bigots in that community.

  6. Lars Fischer Says:

    What is .NET? Nothing more than Microsoft marketing hype. .NET was dead on arrival.

  7. Anonymous Says:

    I’m not a bigot on technology, it’s just that travel money is hard to come by. If I had to choose between a Java only event and a Java/.NET event for the same money, I’d choose the Java one hands down. TSS conferences are quite expensive. If you change it next year so it has 1/2 the Java content for the same price as this year, you can guarantee I won’t be there. I’ll find a conference that has more Java content – because that’s what pays my bills.

    By the way, your comments box is extremely annoying on Firefox on the mac. The cursor is no where near where you type.

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