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Jun 05

Rails on IronRuby == Rails on Windows Server

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I disagree with Charlie on one point:

This is a good friend’s belief, but he’s won me over: we don’t believe Microsoft would ever willingly allow IronRuby to get to the point of running Rails, since that would directly compete with their ASP.NET server, software, and tool offerings. What would be the benefit to them of a free runtime running a free language implementation that runs a free web framework? Probably zero. And as Martin Fowler and others have blogged about NUnit, Microsoft hasn’t exactly been lovey-dovey with OSS projects that impact (or are perceived to impact) their bottom line.

Microsoft cares about the Windows platform. If they can sell more Windows by having a fantastic IronRuby implementation that can run Rails, then that is a net win for them.

11 Responses to “Rails on IronRuby == Rails on Windows Server”

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  2. Charles Oliver Nutter Says:

    I hope you’re right…and I’m starting to soften a bit myself. If Microsoft is truly behind John Lam in making a “compatible” IronRuby, then Rails has to come along with that. The moment they release an IronRuby 1.0 that doesn’t run Rails they’ll be admitting they’re not serious. So perhaps they have no choice but to make Rails run.

    Now whether they’ll be able to get there is another story entirely. I wish John and his team the best of luck.

  3. Stephan Schmidt Says:

    “If they can sell more Windows by having a fantastic Java implementation that can run applications, then that is a net win for them.”

  4. Dion Almaer Says:

    Stephan,

    Dood, the law suit got in the way there. :)

    Dion

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  6. jeremy Says:

    What about the exit barrier?
    Preventing someone from being able to easily leave the windows platform has been taken pretty seriously in the past. Perhaps IronRuby will have an IronRails compliment which is (not quite) compatible with the ’standard’ Ruby on Rails… ?

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  8. dave.dolan Says:

    So wait then… if the ruby is sound, how would they prevent you from running rails? I mean, just write it with whatever quirks microsoft has dreamt up, assuming they were silly enough to do so. It’s not like the ruby compiler is going to check the running file and say ‘you rails? ok… nope, no don’t run.’ If it’s ruby, and rails is written in ruby, what other conclusion can you come up with? Seriously. Conspiricies conspiracies!

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  10. JBF Says:

    I hope to be wrong but from what I understood the plan for Microsoft is to have a Rails like implementation through their MVC framework by allowing IronRuby to run on to of it.
    It’d be nice to have native Rails apps running on IronRuby though.

  11. JBF Says:

    I stand corrected:

    http://www.iunknown.com/2008/05/ironruby-and-rails.html

    …and I think I like it.

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