Comments on: Using the crowd to tell us about browser responsiveness http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:06:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: vila http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40327 vila Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:15:46 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40327 i like Mozilla,use it ,i have more choice,but Chrome don't have any show for me. i like Mozilla,use it ,i have more choice,but Chrome don’t have any show for me.

]]> By: Albert http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40151 Albert Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:37:06 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40151 Duh, that last part should read: if installing extra functionality is worth the performance impact. Duh, that last part should read: if installing extra functionality is worth the performance impact.

]]> By: Albert http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40150 Albert Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:34:49 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40150 @Wladimir: if profiling hurts performance too much, it's probably not the way to go. But why not do some simple sampling of timers on highly visible performance areas? For instance: opening a tab, a new window, etc. The problem with profiling an addon is: you don't know what the addon is meant to do. For instance, lets say someone builds an addon that does some image blur filtering before page load. The load time of a page increases, but wasn't this to be expected? Blaming an addon for being 'badly' programmed in such a case doesn't seem right. Perhaps the statistics should be added to the AMO site, so that people can decide if the performance impact is worth installing extra functionality. @Wladimir: if profiling hurts performance too much, it’s probably not the way to go. But why not do some simple sampling of timers on highly visible performance areas? For instance: opening a tab, a new window, etc.

The problem with profiling an addon is: you don’t know what the addon is meant to do. For instance, lets say someone builds an addon that does some image blur filtering before page load. The load time of a page increases, but wasn’t this to be expected? Blaming an addon for being ‘badly’ programmed in such a case doesn’t seem right.

Perhaps the statistics should be added to the AMO site, so that people can decide if the performance impact is worth installing extra functionality.

]]> By: James http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40149 James Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:52:14 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40149 I think that would be BRILLIANT! Right now I'm suffering from a sluggish browser with new windows taking up to 10 seconds to display (not new tabs). A debugger to help diagnose would be cool. I think that would be BRILLIANT!

Right now I’m suffering from a sluggish browser with new windows taking up to 10 seconds to display (not new tabs).

A debugger to help diagnose would be cool.

]]> By: Phones http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40148 Phones Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:00:17 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40148 Yes, it's really 'complicated' between Mozilla and Google~ Yes, it’s really ‘complicated’ between Mozilla and Google~

]]> By: Ran http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40146 Ran Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:33:52 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40146 I like to paint think. :) I like to paint think. :)

]]> By: Pseudonymous Coward http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40145 Pseudonymous Coward Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:22:43 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40145 It's certainly a developer's feature, not a typical user's feature. I also think that it is not worth the time competing with Google for the sake of it. Should everyone adopt the multi-process model simply because Google did it? If so, why not go a step further and dump XUL and all that jazz and take up Erlang instead? Fads are one thing; sound computer science quite another. It’s certainly a developer’s feature, not a typical user’s feature. I also think that it is not worth the time competing with Google for the sake of it. Should everyone adopt the multi-process model simply because Google did it? If so, why not go a step further and dump XUL and all that jazz and take up Erlang instead? Fads are one thing; sound computer science quite another.

]]> By: Wladimir Palant http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40144 Wladimir Palant Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:00:57 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40144 I don't think it would be that hard. The JavaScript debugging interface gives you access to that kind of information, you can get the execution times for each script and cross-check that with the origin of the script. Problem is, profiling needs to be turned on explicitly - and when it runs it slows JavaScript down a lot, it also changes execution times somewhat. Finally, JavaScript execution time isn't everything, sometimes JavaScript will trigger native code and that won't be as easy to attribute to a particular extension. I don’t think it would be that hard. The JavaScript debugging interface gives you access to that kind of information, you can get the execution times for each script and cross-check that with the origin of the script. Problem is, profiling needs to be turned on explicitly – and when it runs it slows JavaScript down a lot, it also changes execution times somewhat. Finally, JavaScript execution time isn’t everything, sometimes JavaScript will trigger native code and that won’t be as easy to attribute to a particular extension.

]]> By: dion http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40143 dion Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:50:14 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40143 @Vladimir Hahaha nice. I guess as the client of the Web platform, as developers build richer apps, we need to give them more :) @Vladimir

Hahaha nice. I guess as the client of the Web platform, as developers build richer apps, we need to give them more :)

]]> By: dion http://almaer.com/blog/using-the-crowd-to-tell-us-about-browser-responsiveness/comment-page-1#comment-40142 dion Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:49:19 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2220#comment-40142 @Evren, Yes, and we could of course give them feedback through the system. I am sure there are situations where multiple plugins can affect each other etc. We need to give our addon developers more tools! @Evren,

Yes, and we could of course give them feedback through the system. I am sure there are situations where multiple plugins can affect each other etc. We need to give our addon developers more tools!

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