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	<title>Comments on: Time to get rid of www.?</title>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-40057</link>
		<dc:creator>holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ousted allready ass him no dougbt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ousted allready ass him no dougbt</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mahemoff</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-32226</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mahemoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree. Dreamhost actually has an option to do it (in either direction) on their panel. It&#039;s better for search engines as it concentrates your goodness - I&#039;d rather have one high rank than two low ranks! Some search engines also look for general signs of savviness, e.g. do you have a robots.txt, do you have neat URLs. This is one of those signs.

A single domain is key for cookies too.

Trivia: We were doing this for a website in 1997. It was a .com.au, so it was complicated enough and we didn&#039;t want the &quot;www&quot; as well. Only, we found a lot of people at the time couldn&#039;t actually believe it was a legitimate web address without &quot;www&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. Dreamhost actually has an option to do it (in either direction) on their panel. It&#8217;s better for search engines as it concentrates your goodness &#8211; I&#8217;d rather have one high rank than two low ranks! Some search engines also look for general signs of savviness, e.g. do you have a robots.txt, do you have neat URLs. This is one of those signs.</p>
<p>A single domain is key for cookies too.</p>
<p>Trivia: We were doing this for a website in 1997. It was a .com.au, so it was complicated enough and we didn&#8217;t want the &#8220;www&#8221; as well. Only, we found a lot of people at the time couldn&#8217;t actually believe it was a legitimate web address without &#8220;www&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-32225</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just happened across this site by accident, and I remembered your post:

http://no-www.org/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just happened across this site by accident, and I remembered your post:</p>
<p><a href="http://no-www.org/" rel="nofollow">http://no-www.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Floyd  Marinescu</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-32224</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd  Marinescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed! www is so late 90&#039;s!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed! www is so late 90&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Huss</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-32223</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Huss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s long overdue. The www is extraneous and as long as you have a redirect in there you&#039;re good. I&#039;m always surprised to find some sites letting me visit with or without a www or via .org, .net, etc... without redirecting me which is terrible for SEO in terms of inbound linking consistency and duplicate content.

I generally put the redirects under the one virtual host entry for the domain using a serveralias and redirect but the effect is the same. I also re-append the request to the redirect in-case someone has memorized a URL and types it in with a www on the front:

&lt;VirtualHost *&gt;
ServerName domain.com
ServerAlias www.domain.com
DocumentRoot /var/www/domain
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}  ^.*\.domain\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://domain.com$1 [R=301,L]
&lt;/VirtualHost&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s long overdue. The www is extraneous and as long as you have a redirect in there you&#8217;re good. I&#8217;m always surprised to find some sites letting me visit with or without a www or via .org, .net, etc&#8230; without redirecting me which is terrible for SEO in terms of inbound linking consistency and duplicate content.</p>
<p>I generally put the redirects under the one virtual host entry for the domain using a serveralias and redirect but the effect is the same. I also re-append the request to the redirect in-case someone has memorized a URL and types it in with a www on the front:</p>
<p>&lt;VirtualHost *&gt;<br />
ServerName domain.com<br />
ServerAlias <a href="http://www.domain.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.domain.com</a><br />
DocumentRoot /var/www/domain<br />
RewriteEngine on<br />
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}  ^.*\.domain\.com<br />
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ <a href="http://domain.com$1" rel="nofollow">http://domain.com$1</a> [R=301,L]<br />
&lt;/VirtualHost&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Ashley</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/time-to-get-rid-of-www/comment-page-1#comment-32222</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had difficulties with using my bare domain name where my web server is not at the same address as my mail server.  Some SMTP clients (rightly or wrongly - I am not clear from the RFC) use the bare domain name as the mail server if they fail through MX lookups.  The result has meant for me that I have to run Apache on my mail server as well with mod_rewrite so any bare domain name http attempts get redirected back to the right place.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had difficulties with using my bare domain name where my web server is not at the same address as my mail server.  Some SMTP clients (rightly or wrongly &#8211; I am not clear from the RFC) use the bare domain name as the mail server if they fail through MX lookups.  The result has meant for me that I have to run Apache on my mail server as well with mod_rewrite so any bare domain name http attempts get redirected back to the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: Koen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Opera  that&#039;s something you can configure. ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Opera  that&#8217;s something you can configure. ;)</p>
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