Comments on: The State of the Scripting Universe http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:06:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rickard http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe/comment-page-1#comment-21874 Rickard Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:51:58 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe#comment-21874 Here's my problem. I used Groovy for a rather sizeable script that did som data shuffling. In the end we decided to convert it back to Java, because of productivity issues, namely in the way of lacking tool support. Tab completion in IntelliJ made it faster to type the same code, and other people could more easily read the Java code due to the code browsing features in IntelliJ (Ctrl-B). Also, it took way too much time to compile our 5-page Groovy script (>30secs), which just isn't ok. So in the end Java just worked better. Go figure. Here’s my problem. I used Groovy for a rather sizeable script that did som data shuffling. In the end we decided to convert it back to Java, because of productivity issues, namely in the way of lacking tool support. Tab completion in IntelliJ made it faster to type the same code, and other people could more easily read the Java code due to the code browsing features in IntelliJ (Ctrl-B). Also, it took way too much time to compile our 5-page Groovy script (>30secs), which just isn’t ok. So in the end Java just worked better. Go figure.

]]> By: Chad http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe/comment-page-1#comment-21873 Chad Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:37:54 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe#comment-21873 I can't imagine using the phrase "Ruby on Rails" in an interview. I think at most companies you'd get some very strange looks. I'm sure these projects have their places (and probably many of them), but I haven't run into anyone using them. I can’t imagine using the phrase “Ruby on Rails” in an interview. I think at most companies you’d get some very strange looks. I’m sure these projects have their places (and probably many of them), but I haven’t run into anyone using them.

]]> By: Dion Almaer http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe/comment-page-1#comment-21872 Dion Almaer Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:45:40 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe#comment-21872 So Java isn't pragmatic? :) That is a bit harsh. It isn't that language A is more pragmatic than language B. They are just different tools, for different jobs. It can be more pragmatic to use C, or assembler to hard core real time robotics. Dion So Java isn’t pragmatic? :)

That is a bit harsh. It isn’t that language A is more pragmatic than language B. They are just different tools, for different jobs.

It can be more pragmatic to use C, or assembler to hard core real time robotics.

Dion

]]> By: Howard M. Lewis Ship http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe/comment-page-1#comment-21871 Howard M. Lewis Ship Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:33:30 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe#comment-21871 I've been trying to spread the term "pragmatic languages". I don't remember if I coined the term, or picked it up from elsewhere (possibly Dave Thomas). I’ve been trying to spread the term “pragmatic languages”. I don’t remember if I coined the term, or picked it up from elsewhere (possibly Dave Thomas).

]]> By: David King http://almaer.com/blog/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe/comment-page-1#comment-21870 David King Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:21:27 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/the-state-of-the-scripting-universe#comment-21870 I wish there was more case studies on how people are 'really' using technology to solve real-world problems with whatever framework/language, etc... We seem to spend more time doing comparisons instead of creating value for our customer (whomever they are). I happen to use JAVA primarily, some core, but mostly j2ee. There is the occasional need to work with PHP, Perl, Unix Shell, etc... To me the bottom line, Ruby on Rails, Java on the Trail, Python in the sand, let's get to work man. I wish there was more case studies on how people are ‘really’ using technology to solve real-world problems with whatever framework/language, etc…

We seem to spend more time doing comparisons instead of creating value for our customer (whomever they are). I happen to use JAVA primarily, some core, but mostly j2ee. There is the occasional need to work with PHP, Perl, Unix Shell, etc…

To me the bottom line, Ruby on Rails, Java on the Trail, Python in the sand, let’s get to work man.

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