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	<title>Comments on: The Consultants: Inverting Your Control</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Duffy</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/the-consultants-inverting-your-control/comment-page-1#comment-37763</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says refactoring to IoC has to be an all-or-none proposition?

I&#039;ve found that using Spring in legacy code works out pretty well.  I don&#039;t have to rewrite the entire code base to benefit from using it.  It plays nicely with others.  

Anybody who would pay a high priced consultant just to rewrite existing code to make it fashionable deserves to be fleeced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says refactoring to IoC has to be an all-or-none proposition?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that using Spring in legacy code works out pretty well.  I don&#8217;t have to rewrite the entire code base to benefit from using it.  It plays nicely with others.  </p>
<p>Anybody who would pay a high priced consultant just to rewrite existing code to make it fashionable deserves to be fleeced.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard M. Lewis Ship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard M. Lewis Ship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IAGNI (I am gonna need it) -- Interfaces give me proxies for interception, lazy loading, state management, transaction management, mock testing with EasyMock. They become self documenting, help/force me to break concepts into truly independent concerns, keep my code small and smart.  Yep, gonna need all of that and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IAGNI (I am gonna need it) &#8212; Interfaces give me proxies for interception, lazy loading, state management, transaction management, mock testing with EasyMock. They become self documenting, help/force me to break concepts into truly independent concerns, keep my code small and smart.  Yep, gonna need all of that and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Singer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interfaces? YAGNI ! 

(See EJB 3.1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interfaces? YAGNI ! </p>
<p>(See EJB 3.1)</p>
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		<title>By: unacoder</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/the-consultants-inverting-your-control/comment-page-1#comment-37756</link>
		<dc:creator>unacoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get paid a good salary to mess up clean code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get paid a good salary to mess up clean code.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard M. Lewis Ship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard M. Lewis Ship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hits a little close to home.  IoC is much easier when its the initial design. I&#039;ve been burned on this where *half* of the conversion from monolithic to IoC took place and then I got dragged off before I could finish the rest. The end result was good testing of a bunch of less important things, but code that was very confusing to everyone else.

Proper IoC is lots of interfaces but not many abstract classes.  And I don&#039;t autogenerate anything (at build time, runtime is another matter).

Dion --- did you draw this or find it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hits a little close to home.  IoC is much easier when its the initial design. I&#8217;ve been burned on this where *half* of the conversion from monolithic to IoC took place and then I got dragged off before I could finish the rest. The end result was good testing of a bunch of less important things, but code that was very confusing to everyone else.</p>
<p>Proper IoC is lots of interfaces but not many abstract classes.  And I don&#8217;t autogenerate anything (at build time, runtime is another matter).</p>
<p>Dion &#8212; did you draw this or find it?</p>
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