Folks, look around, there is amlost no high load sites in the net which work on Java. (Except .sun.com, maybe) everything else is written in PHP, Python, Perl, Ruby and runs on LiNUX or FreeBSD. No Java.

Even google is not known to use java…

You know why? Lots of developers are not that old. They haven’t seen time over time how hype is created and disappears. You can tell them whatever story you like and if it’s well done and “cool”, they will talk about the “next big thing” to all their young friends and how “cool” this new toy is. When they are in this business for 15 years more, then they start to remember and eventually realize that there is nothing new about POJOs.

Another example: go and ask an old hand about virtualization. Nothing new for folks who have been working with mainframes before. In fact it’s a bad sad to see that in this industry a lot of “new ideas” aren’t so new at all. It’s more like a re-play. True innovation is rare.

You know why? Lots of developers are not that old. They haven’t seen time over time how hype is created and disappears. You can tell them whatever story you like and if it’s well done and “cool”, they will talk about the “next big thing” to all their young friends and how “cool” this new toy is. When they are in this business for 15 years more, then they start to remember and eventually realize that there is nothing new about POJOs.

Another example: go and ask an old hand about virtualization. Nothing new for folks who have been working with mainframes before. In fact it’s a bad sad to see that in this industry a lot of “new ideas” aren’t so new at all. It’s more like a re-play. True innovation is rare.

http://gabrito.com/post/will-a-language-scale-wrong-question

Lets seperate language from implementation. A ruby compiler to the JVM would indeed be much more usefull for real-life productions than the current ruby implementations.

But from a language point-of-view Java, is perhaps the weirdest language on the block. It has crappy abstraction mechanisms, yet enforces what it has to the end. They solved like 10% of these problems with the support of (what they call) generics. Which gives you a kind of poor-man implementation of polymorphism embedded in a language that wasn’t designed to support it in the first place.

Java is all buzz, all marketing. I personally (at this point in time) would recommend people to switch to Mono/.NET so at least they can built and use a framework that isn’t language specific.

Please stop forcing the good programmers that want to use the right programming languages to use crappy languages when they are only one that have descent support and frameworks suitable for scalability.

And no I wouldn’t use Ruby for something that has to be scalable as well. If scalability/support/framework wasn’t an issue all together I would problely use Haskell-Server-Page anyways, rather than the ruby’s middle ground. But I can imagine that HSP would never get that kind of support since about 90% of the script-kiddies that actually land a job at the corps aren’t educated enough to use such technology correctly anyway.

Maybe you are in the middle of the road, but most Rails fanboys are at the “all Java sucks” side. Are you surprised that some people come out on the “all Rails sucks” side?

The silent majority – ROFLMAO!!!