Comments on: RE: Java 5.0 goes the wrong way, Groovy goes too far http://almaer.com/blog/re-java-50-goes-the-wrong-way-groovy-goes-too-far blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:06:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Richard Dale http://almaer.com/blog/re-java-50-goes-the-wrong-way-groovy-goes-too-far/comment-page-1#comment-9104 Richard Dale Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:12:31 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/re-java-50-goes-the-wrong-way-groovy-goes-too-far#comment-9104 "No need for type inference with strong dynamic untyped variables in Smalltalk." No need for them in Ruby or Groovy either though. I think Dion is saying he wants Groovy to be groovier. Ruby is more dynamic than Groovy - you can add methods to existing classes, or subclass an individual instance. Maybe that would be a good start. irb(main):001:0> p = {} => {} irb(main):002:0> p["test"] = "value" => "value" irb(main):003:0> s = p["test"] => "value" irb(main):004:0> double = [1,2,3,4,5].map {|num| num * 2} => [2, 4, 6, 8, 10] irb(main):005:0> If you prefer Smalltalk method names: irb(main):001:0> double = [1,2,3,4,5].collect {|num| num * 2} => [2, 4, 6, 8, 10] “No need for type inference with strong dynamic untyped variables in Smalltalk.”

No need for them in Ruby or Groovy either though. I think Dion is saying he wants Groovy to be groovier. Ruby is more dynamic than Groovy – you can add methods to existing classes, or subclass an individual instance. Maybe that would be a good start.

irb(main):001:0> p = {}
=> {}
irb(main):002:0> p["test"] = “value”
=> “value”
irb(main):003:0> s = p["test"]
=> “value”
irb(main):004:0> double = [1,2,3,4,5].map {|num| num * 2}
=> [2, 4, 6, 8, 10]
irb(main):005:0>

If you prefer Smalltalk method names:

irb(main):001:0> double = [1,2,3,4,5].collect {|num| num * 2}
=> [2, 4, 6, 8, 10]

]]> By: Mark Johnson http://almaer.com/blog/re-java-50-goes-the-wrong-way-groovy-goes-too-far/comment-page-1#comment-9103 Mark Johnson Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:25:52 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog2/re-java-50-goes-the-wrong-way-groovy-goes-too-far#comment-9103 What you are asking for already exists. Just not in Java. You've mentioned Smalltalk in your post already though, so there is no point in me mentioning it a second time. What you are asking for already exists. Just not in Java. You’ve mentioned Smalltalk in your post already though, so there is no point in me mentioning it a second time.

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