Comments on: Python has a leg up in the dynamic language race

By: free ringtones

free ringtones — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:52:09 +0000

By: Tim Gilbert

Tim Gilbert — Sun, 08 May 2005 08:48:12 +0000

Also, just as a side note, most of the python web frameworks out there allow the use of many different templating engines, and some of the more interesting ones (PyMeld, Kid, TAL) do not allow you (or at least encourage you not to) embed code in the templates. Kid lets you embed python in it, but the python blocks aren’t allowed to output anything, so ideally they function more as strict presentation-layer logic blocks.

By: Victor

Victor — Sat, 07 May 2005 00:21:12 +0000

I use Jython for scripting any Java API for fast propotyping. For example a Oracle or DB2 JDBC driver, I will write a code snippet fairly fast to load some csv data into Oracle or DB2 for performance testing.

By: Jonathan Ellis

Jonathan Ellis — Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:06 +0000

Spyce 2.0 beta was just released: http://spyce.sourceforge.net

By: Kevin Dangoor

Kevin Dangoor — Wed, 04 May 2005 21:44:30 +0000

It’s not a coincidence that Jython is picking up steam. The Jython project won a grant from the Python Software Foundation to help bring it up to the 2.4 level. Python underwent some major internal change in 2.2 that hadn’t made it into Jython.

In truth, Python is not lacking in a decent web framework. There are many of them. If anything, the lack is in documentation. Spyce, CherryPy, Quixote, Nevow, WebWare all have strengths.

Regarding putting code in your templates: sure, it’s not a good idea in most cases. However, one of the reigning principles in dynamic languages is “trust the programmer”. If you can be trusted to use dynamic typing, you can probably be trusted to do the right thing with your templates.

p.s. there’s no need for a 6 digit captcha. Even a 1 digit captcha will likely keep the spammers out.

By: Laszlo Marai

Laszlo Marai — Wed, 04 May 2005 14:54:24 +0000

Hi,

I don’t really see the point in, as you say, using Jython for making python running ‘on a whole set of platforms’. It’s nice for rapid java prototyping and scripting, but if you only need python then just use CPython as it’s multpiplatform in itself :).

Another reason for using Jython is to reuse some nice (OS) java library or framework that’s not there for pyhton (e.g. a decent web framework – it’s strange to see how dynamic langugaes are going to make the same mistake as java and PHP did with inline code in JSP).

By: Bill de hOra

Bill de hOra — Wed, 04 May 2005 13:36:47 +0000

Dion,

http://www.dehora.net/journal/2004/08/python_will_assimilate_you.html

In short, Python is seriously portable. And we call JPython, Jython these days ;) There is renewed community activity to the likes of Brian Zimmer and Sean McGrath. The focus of the curret work is about about moving to meet the new language features in 2.2/2.3/24 Python releases and rounding out the libraries.