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	<title>Comments on: Perl Deja Vu with new Groovy Syntax</title>
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		<title>By: karthik</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/perl-deja-vu-with-new-groovy-syntax/comment-page-1#comment-22021</link>
		<dc:creator>karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 02:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think this works in python. Is&#039;nt apply() present specifically to address this?

class Hello
def  __init__(self,a,b):
pass

lst = [1,2]
Hello(lst)# Error
h = apply(Hello,lst)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think this works in python. Is&#8217;nt apply() present specifically to address this?</p>
<p>class Hello<br />
def  __init__(self,a,b):<br />
pass</p>
<p>lst = [1,2]<br />
Hello(lst)# Error<br />
h = apply(Hello,lst)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spille</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/perl-deja-vu-with-new-groovy-syntax/comment-page-1#comment-22020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Spille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dangerous and silly &quot;feature&quot;.  I predict that this feature will have two primary end results in Groovy code:

1) Most people will be completely unaware of it and will be baffled when they encounter it out in the wild (WTF is this?!?!?).  Groovy&#039;s abysmal documentation guarantees this.

2) It will preduce really bizarre errors and behaviors where people are trying to do list things and Groovy is auto-coercing their lists into new objects.  Oy!

Yet another &quot;feature&quot; that hasn&#039;t been thought out and will cause more grief than good.  Go Groovy!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dangerous and silly &#8220;feature&#8221;.  I predict that this feature will have two primary end results in Groovy code:</p>
<p>1) Most people will be completely unaware of it and will be baffled when they encounter it out in the wild (WTF is this?!?!?).  Groovy&#8217;s abysmal documentation guarantees this.</p>
<p>2) It will preduce really bizarre errors and behaviors where people are trying to do list things and Groovy is auto-coercing their lists into new objects.  Oy!</p>
<p>Yet another &#8220;feature&#8221; that hasn&#8217;t been thought out and will cause more grief than good.  Go Groovy!</p>
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		<title>By: Dion</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/perl-deja-vu-with-new-groovy-syntax/comment-page-1#comment-22019</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 03:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

You are right of course, but it all gets auto converted around:


sub foo {
my %h = @_;

print $h{&#039;a&#039;};
}

foo(a =&gt; &#039;b&#039;);


D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>You are right of course, but it all gets auto converted around:</p>
<p>sub foo {<br />
my %h = @_;</p>
<p>print $h{&#8217;a'};<br />
}</p>
<p>foo(a => &#8216;b&#8217;);</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winters</title>
		<link>http://almaer.com/blog/perl-deja-vu-with-new-groovy-syntax/comment-page-1#comment-22018</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, the &#039;a =&gt; &quot;hi&quot;, b =&gt; 32&#039; perl construction isn&#039;t a hash, you&#039;re just using &#039;=&gt;&#039; (a.k.a, the &#039;fat comma&#039;) as a shortcut so you don&#039;t have to quote &#039;a&#039; and &#039;b&#039;. What perl sees with that is: &#039;&quot;a&quot;, &quot;hi&quot;, &quot;b&quot;, 32&#039;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, the &#8216;a => &#8220;hi&#8221;, b => 32&#8242; perl construction isn&#8217;t a hash, you&#8217;re just using &#8216;=>&#8217; (a.k.a, the &#8216;fat comma&#8217;) as a shortcut so you don&#8217;t have to quote &#8216;a&#8217; and &#8216;b&#8217;. What perl sees with that is: &#8216;&#8221;a&#8221;, &#8220;hi&#8221;, &#8220;b&#8221;, 32&#8242;.</p>
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