Comments on: Onerous terms http://almaer.com/blog/onerous-terms blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:06:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rob Brackett http://almaer.com/blog/onerous-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47073 Rob Brackett Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:19:50 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2760#comment-47073 Perhaps I'm being too sympathetic to Apple, but this doesn't seem hypocritical to me. Granted, exactly what "onerous terms" Facebook wanted wasn't discussed, but the issue with Carmack and Quakecon seems to be clearly about how Apple announced their platform—Quakecon occurred before the Apple announcement; having John Carmack effectively announce Apple's product beforehand would have removed a lot of the news from Apple's event. It doesn't *seem* like Facebook's terms would have been similar in any way. I certainly respect Mr. Carmack's decision to be in charge of announcing his own work on his terms and announcing it at the venue he felt was better suited. I don't think his decision not to work with Apple destroys any relationship between them, and I don't know of Apple saying anything to that effect, either. It also doesn't seem like failing to work something out with respect to Ping has destroyed any overall relationship between Apple and Facebook. It might be hypocritical if Mr. Jobs stated that the disagreement over Ping meant they would never work with Facebook again *and* stated that Mr. Carmack's decision not to work with Apple meant they wouldn't work with him, either, but that doesn't seem to be what's being said. Perhaps I’m being too sympathetic to Apple, but this doesn’t seem hypocritical to me. Granted, exactly what “onerous terms” Facebook wanted wasn’t discussed, but the issue with Carmack and Quakecon seems to be clearly about how Apple announced their platform—Quakecon occurred before the Apple announcement; having John Carmack effectively announce Apple’s product beforehand would have removed a lot of the news from Apple’s event. It doesn’t *seem* like Facebook’s terms would have been similar in any way.

I certainly respect Mr. Carmack’s decision to be in charge of announcing his own work on his terms and announcing it at the venue he felt was better suited. I don’t think his decision not to work with Apple destroys any relationship between them, and I don’t know of Apple saying anything to that effect, either. It also doesn’t seem like failing to work something out with respect to Ping has destroyed any overall relationship between Apple and Facebook. It might be hypocritical if Mr. Jobs stated that the disagreement over Ping meant they would never work with Facebook again *and* stated that Mr. Carmack’s decision not to work with Apple meant they wouldn’t work with him, either, but that doesn’t seem to be what’s being said.

]]> By: Jesse Kuhnert http://almaer.com/blog/onerous-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47072 Jesse Kuhnert Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:18:09 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2760#comment-47072 Considering where he works and compared to similar-ish people at other companies I think Dion us by far the most balanced and true to his opinions no matter what he does during the day.. Considering where he works and compared to similar-ish people at other companies I think Dion us by far the most balanced and true to his opinions no matter what he does during the day..

]]> By: dion http://almaer.com/blog/onerous-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47071 dion Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:55:28 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2760#comment-47071 Andy, Thanks for taking the time to follow me. This isn't about Apple being evil. I never said that, and I don't think in black and white about corporations. This is about hypocrisy, that is all. Cheers, Dion Andy,

Thanks for taking the time to follow me.

This isn’t about Apple being evil. I never said that, and I don’t think in black and white about corporations.

This is about hypocrisy, that is all.

Cheers,

Dion

]]> By: Andy http://almaer.com/blog/onerous-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47070 Andy Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:41:48 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2760#comment-47070 Dion, Please stop being reactive about Apple - it won't take you anywhere. I receive your tweets for the great new stuff you mention, not to read about how "evil" Apple is. Dion,

Please stop being reactive about Apple – it won’t take you anywhere.

I receive your tweets for the great new stuff you mention, not to read about how “evil” Apple is.

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