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	<title>Comments on: IE Wishes; Time for a &#8220;Best Viewed In Any of These..&#8221; day?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about developing an Adobe AIR version precisely for those people what work in businesses with software tied to IE. Their IT department may still not let them download the AIR app, but at least I&#039;m providing an option.

My problem is that my app is slow on IE6, which makes me look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about developing an Adobe AIR version precisely for those people what work in businesses with software tied to IE. Their IT department may still not let them download the AIR app, but at least I&#8217;m providing an option.</p>
<p>My problem is that my app is slow on IE6, which makes me look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: SchizoDuckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>SchizoDuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually i think the only way we can phase out IE6 is to just make sites look crappy in it (well that won&#039;t be a problem LOL )

If the customer complains, you (and you company) can fix it at an hourly rate, or download some a-grade browser. This and this alone is the only way that we can get large corporations to upgrade. Use a better browser, or pay up, you do the math :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually i think the only way we can phase out IE6 is to just make sites look crappy in it (well that won&#8217;t be a problem LOL )</p>
<p>If the customer complains, you (and you company) can fix it at an hourly rate, or download some a-grade browser. This and this alone is the only way that we can get large corporations to upgrade. Use a better browser, or pay up, you do the math :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ignacio Coloma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignacio Coloma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year I suddenly realized that I have dedicated entire weeks to work for microsoft (for free) to make my projects work on IE6. Since then, we have evangelized all our customers to install and only use firefox, and our bug count dropped drastically.

If they don&#039;t climb in, IE will simply not matter anymore.  I am not switching to ie 8, no matter what. There is not a technical reason, just some vendetta feeling about getting my time back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I suddenly realized that I have dedicated entire weeks to work for microsoft (for free) to make my projects work on IE6. Since then, we have evangelized all our customers to install and only use firefox, and our bug count dropped drastically.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t climb in, IE will simply not matter anymore.  I am not switching to ie 8, no matter what. There is not a technical reason, just some vendetta feeling about getting my time back.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple more points that came to mind after clicking Submit:

1) I prefer to target standards that are widely deployed.  As you say, this is not only about one browser, it&#039;s about any browser that doesn&#039;t support SVG (in my case).

2) The biggest problem I&#039;ve seen with IE6 entrenchment is the enterprise.  There are a large number of enterprise applications that were built specifically for IE6 during the period after it won the First Browser War until only a year or two ago.  I don&#039;t think Joe Blow Shmuckatelli would mind at all if IE7 was auto-downloaded to his PC, it&#039;s more of the corporate intranets that pose a hurdle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple more points that came to mind after clicking Submit:</p>
<p>1) I prefer to target standards that are widely deployed.  As you say, this is not only about one browser, it&#8217;s about any browser that doesn&#8217;t support SVG (in my case).</p>
<p>2) The biggest problem I&#8217;ve seen with IE6 entrenchment is the enterprise.  There are a large number of enterprise applications that were built specifically for IE6 during the period after it won the First Browser War until only a year or two ago.  I don&#8217;t think Joe Blow Shmuckatelli would mind at all if IE7 was auto-downloaded to his PC, it&#8217;s more of the corporate intranets that pose a hurdle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dion - I decided to do that starting in February as I was tired of waiting for Internet Explorer to support modern web standards.  The site content renders but the target audience is any browser that supports SVG and XHTML (over half of my audience).  What&#039;s funny is that my &#039;disclaimer&#039; is very similarly worded to your suggestion.  

In fairness, I should state that users only get that disclaimer if their browser does not support SVG (therefore IE with Adobe SVG Viewer or Renesis or Mozie will not see that statement).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dion &#8211; I decided to do that starting in February as I was tired of waiting for Internet Explorer to support modern web standards.  The site content renders but the target audience is any browser that supports SVG and XHTML (over half of my audience).  What&#8217;s funny is that my &#8216;disclaimer&#8217; is very similarly worded to your suggestion.  </p>
<p>In fairness, I should state that users only get that disclaimer if their browser does not support SVG (therefore IE with Adobe SVG Viewer or Renesis or Mozie will not see that statement).</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve found that developing for a Mac-only audience means never having to say you&#039;re sorry that Microsoft software sucks.

:-)

Regards,
Charlie

PS. Sorry, Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve found that developing for a Mac-only audience means never having to say you&#8217;re sorry that Microsoft software sucks.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Charlie</p>
<p>PS. Sorry, Microsoft.</p>
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