Comments on: Definition of an IDE http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:06:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ncper world http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38879 ncper world Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:29:27 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38879 I can’t believe <a href="http://seojishu.zhan.cn.yahoo.com/" rel="nofollow">seo技术</a> I can’t believe seo技术

]]> By: tc http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38676 tc Wed, 21 May 2008 20:34:02 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38676 Yeah, why wouldn't somebody want to throw away everything they have and learn completely new ways of doing *everything*? Installing a couple extensions sounds pretty tough! Yeah, why wouldn’t somebody want to throw away everything they have and learn completely new ways of doing *everything*? Installing a couple extensions sounds pretty tough!

]]> By: Yuen-Chi Lian http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38563 Yuen-Chi Lian Thu, 15 May 2008 20:07:51 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38563 I have met some Unix guys in the past few months who never will give IDE a try. To them, they can make vi an IDE by adding desired extensions. I mean.. why?? It won't make you to look stupid if you use Eclipse to write Java. Anyway, you can open a single file in Eclipse. I always use it to edit my poms. yc I have met some Unix guys in the past few months who never will give IDE a try. To them, they can make vi an IDE by adding desired extensions. I mean.. why?? It won’t make you to look stupid if you use Eclipse to write Java.

Anyway, you can open a single file in Eclipse. I always use it to edit my poms.

yc

]]> By: Sam http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38521 Sam Sun, 11 May 2008 08:02:29 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38521 I can't believe that you don't have IntelliJ already open and just pull up the file :) I can’t believe that you don’t have IntelliJ already open and just pull up the file :)

]]> By: Behrang http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38520 Behrang Sun, 11 May 2008 07:34:44 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38520 I can't believe that I made that typo! Its Its Its Its Its! Not It's It's It's It's! I can’t believe that I made that typo! Its Its Its Its Its! Not It’s It’s It’s It’s!

]]> By: Behrang http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38519 Behrang Sun, 11 May 2008 07:17:05 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38519 Does it mean that Visual Studio is an editor? Plus, even if it was possible to open a file with IntelliJ IDEA, or Eclipse, or NetBeans for that matter, I would still prefer to do it with TextMate because Java IDEs are all painfully slow to startup. Even JEdit starts up painstakingly slowly compared to native editors. Unrelated conclusion: though Java is fast enough and sometimes the fastest when it comes to computational and long running benchmarks, it's startup speed is still unacceptably slow for desktop applications and this is not a good thing Oo Does it mean that Visual Studio is an editor?

Plus, even if it was possible to open a file with IntelliJ IDEA, or Eclipse, or NetBeans for that matter, I would still prefer to do it with TextMate because Java IDEs are all painfully slow to startup. Even JEdit starts up painstakingly slowly compared to native editors.

Unrelated conclusion: though Java is fast enough and sometimes the fastest when it comes to computational and long running benchmarks, it’s startup speed is still unacceptably slow for desktop applications and this is not a good thing Oo

]]> By: Dimitar Dimitrov http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide/comment-page-1#comment-38518 Dimitar Dimitrov Sun, 11 May 2008 05:49:13 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/definition-of-an-ide#comment-38518 Well, you can definitely open an arbitrary file in IDEA or any other IDE. The basic text editor functionality is immediately available. What the project gives you is context. Java programs (unlike Perl) rarely consist of one file. Many of the advanced functionality of an IDE depends on knowledge of where to find the files you have *not* opened right now, which version of Java syntax it should validate against, etc. That's what you specify in the project. Conversely, you do the same things in emacs. Yes, you might be able to specify it on global level, but frankly speaking I don't see the huge difference. If I want autocompletion and symbol lookup, I need to generate a ctags database and refresh it often. So to conclude, my definition of an IDE: when you use an IDE the editing context is the whole program, when you use an editor, you edit files. Well, you can definitely open an arbitrary file in IDEA or any other IDE. The basic text editor functionality is immediately available.

What the project gives you is context. Java programs (unlike Perl) rarely consist of one file. Many of the advanced functionality of an IDE depends on knowledge of where to find the files you have *not* opened right now, which version of Java syntax it should validate against, etc. That’s what you specify in the project.

Conversely, you do the same things in emacs. Yes, you might be able to specify it on global level, but frankly speaking I don’t see the huge difference. If I want autocompletion and symbol lookup, I need to generate a ctags database and refresh it often.

So to conclude, my definition of an IDE: when you use an IDE the editing context is the whole program, when you use an editor, you edit files.

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