Comments on: Lightweight containers vs. EJB: Don Box, Ted Neward, Rod Johnson, and more

By: Ted Neward

Ted Neward — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:58:09 +0000

nixo,
You don’t understand why “java is better than C++”? Moron.

By: nixo

nixo — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:47:59 +0000

If you can’t see that Spring isn’t nicer than EJB? Ouch. You must like eating the elephant ;)

1) I think you got that backwards.
2) trading one bit of complexity for another less complex bit of complexity doesn’t sound like much of a win to me.
What is wrong with POJO. The simplest servlet engine and a library of useful classes is all I’ve ever needed. It’s simple and fast isn’t complex (unless you make it so) and doesn’t involve related code being in lots of different places.
OO sounds great on paper, but in reality all it means is that one logical process is spread over multiple class files instead of just one.
I never understood how that was better.
I also never quite got why java is better than C++.

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By: Dion

Dion — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:43:41 +0000

Prashant -

I agree with you there. Especially, now with JOTM, we have a solid open source JTA implementation that we haven’t had before.

I just meant that EJB is an option with 2PC.

I agree with you 100% though :)

Dion

By: Dilip

Dilip — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:48:02 +0000

“However, HOW many applications need 2PC? 2%? And then within those applications, how many of their transactions need to be 2PC?”

Dion.. That statement above seems awfully backwards to me. An application decides whether it needs local or distributed transactions first. If it needs the latter then 2PC is a foregone conclusion. The real question you need to ask is whether running a distributed transaction is that prevelant. COM+ had this bad habit of starting a distributed transaction as soon as you declaratively mark a component as requiring transaction even if you operate on only one RM.

By: Don Box's Spoutlet

Don Box's Spoutlet — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:56:05 +0000

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