Comments on: Launching Bespin; Feeling light as a cloud http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud blogging about life, the universe, and everything tech Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:08:49 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Powell http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-40398 Powell Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:10:13 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2265#comment-40398 Visited that site and found it useful.When needed will surely register over that site. Visited that site and found it useful.When needed will surely register over that site.

]]> By: Sean Burke http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-40379 Sean Burke Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:00:39 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2265#comment-40379 Arturo instead of attacking people for building a good product why don't you congradulate them instead. OS is about sharing but without many different projects reaching for the same goal we would never have some of the great projects we do today. Wether it is a CMD, IDE or evern a linux distro in it's self people have different ideas on what a project should do, what language it is developed in and how it is run. Hell if Mozilla helped free us from IE but I don't see you listing Firefox in your list of re-inventing the wheel. Open source is about the ability to choose, the community and the love for developing code who cares if a project has the same goals as another. Arturo instead of attacking people for building a good product why don’t you congradulate them instead. OS is about sharing but without many different projects reaching for the same goal we would never have some of the great projects we do today. Wether it is a CMD, IDE or evern a linux distro in it’s self people have different ideas on what a project should do, what language it is developed in and how it is run. Hell if Mozilla helped free us from IE but I don’t see you listing Firefox in your list of re-inventing the wheel. Open source is about the ability to choose, the community and the love for developing code who cares if a project has the same goals as another.

]]> By: Arturo http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-40371 Arturo Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:09:39 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2265#comment-40371 You know that Eclipse foundation is working on web-based IDE-technology too, do you? And OpenSource is all about sharing resources and all about collaboration and cooperation, isn*t it? Mozilla is again reinventing the wheel (today: the IDE-wheel) as they did with JIT/Hotspot. It's better to support Webkit I guess... cos I don't want to support a foundation having a NIH-syndrom larger then the Mount Everest. You know that Eclipse foundation is working on web-based IDE-technology too, do you? And OpenSource is all about sharing resources and all about collaboration and cooperation, isn*t it?

Mozilla is again reinventing the wheel (today: the IDE-wheel) as they did with JIT/Hotspot. It’s better to support Webkit I guess… cos I don’t want to support a foundation having a NIH-syndrom larger then the Mount Everest.

]]> By: Dion Almaer http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-40368 Dion Almaer Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:51:16 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2265#comment-40368 Darren, Thanks for the thoughts. I am a vi guy and love keyboard short cuts too. We have some but aren't doing a good job at letting you know :) Ctrl-J is the one that jumps from command line to the editor itself. I use it constantly. On the physical line issue, I added a new setting "strictlines" that you can turn on via "set strictlines on" in the command line (at the next push of the codebase). It gives you exactly what you wish. I prefer that way of doing it myself :) Also, finishing up the ability to easily add and load up your own commands and am really excited about that as I want to see what people come up with! Cheers, Dion Darren,

Thanks for the thoughts. I am a vi guy and love keyboard short cuts too.

We have some but aren’t doing a good job at letting you know :)

Ctrl-J is the one that jumps from command line to the editor itself. I use it constantly.

On the physical line issue, I added a new setting “strictlines” that you can turn on via “set strictlines on” in the command line (at the next push of the codebase). It gives you exactly what you wish. I prefer that way of doing it myself :)

Also, finishing up the ability to easily add and load up your own commands and am really excited about that as I want to see what people come up with!

Cheers,

Dion

]]> By: Darren James http://almaer.com/blog/launching-bespin-feeling-light-as-a-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-40366 Darren James Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:39:55 +0000 http://almaer.com/blog/?p=2265#comment-40366 Hey Dion, I've been playing around with Bespin, and I have to say I'm really excited about the possibilities. The collaborative aspects would be useful even if only for remote code-reviews and such. As far as usability, one of the things that would be high on my list would be the idea of editing without having to use the mouse (fingers never leaving the keyboard). So things like keyboard shortcuts to put the focus in the command-line area would be important. Also I would like to be able to turn off the feature where the cursor is allowed to exist out in the ether (beyond the end of a physical line). I look forward to seeing how things progress and maybe trying my hand at writing my own commands. Kudos! - darren Hey Dion,

I’ve been playing around with Bespin, and I have to say I’m really excited about the possibilities. The collaborative aspects would be useful even if only for remote code-reviews and such. As far as usability, one of the things that would be high on my list would be the idea of editing without having to use the mouse (fingers never leaving the keyboard). So things like keyboard shortcuts to put the focus in the command-line area would be important. Also I would like to be able to turn off the feature where the cursor is allowed to exist out in the ether (beyond the end of a physical line). I look forward to seeing how things progress and maybe trying my hand at writing my own commands. Kudos!

- darren

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