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		<title>By: Mike Spille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Spille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2004 23:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall if I said it or not in my TSS post on this subject, but Gregor and the rest of the AspectJ team deserve a great deal of credit for presenting this technology in a very balanced manner.  Historically they&#039;ve made a huge difference in keeping discussions on AOP grounded and not pie-in-the-sky, and that&#039;s gone a long way towards avoiding the hysteria that other technologies have seen in their early years.

As you said Dion, in this space at least the _real_ mentors are doing a great job of keeping it real.  But it&#039;s not always easy to distinguish the true mentors from the pretenders - especially since the pretenders can be much louder and flashier.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall if I said it or not in my TSS post on this subject, but Gregor and the rest of the AspectJ team deserve a great deal of credit for presenting this technology in a very balanced manner.  Historically they&#8217;ve made a huge difference in keeping discussions on AOP grounded and not pie-in-the-sky, and that&#8217;s gone a long way towards avoiding the hysteria that other technologies have seen in their early years.</p>
<p>As you said Dion, in this space at least the _real_ mentors are doing a great job of keeping it real.  But it&#8217;s not always easy to distinguish the true mentors from the pretenders &#8211; especially since the pretenders can be much louder and flashier.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2004 22:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dion and great blog entry.  Having started playing with AOP seriously in the last month or so and I have to completely agree with you.  I love Mike&#039;s comment about AOP or any new technology - I think Bruce Tate is already working on a Bitter AOP book. :)

It was really refreshing to spend a few hours with Ramnivas Laddad, the author of AspectJ in Action to get his perspective on AOP and how it will change the development landscape.  I walked away with the same impression - 90% of code will be handled via OO while AOP will tackle the other 10%.

--vinny

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dion and great blog entry.  Having started playing with AOP seriously in the last month or so and I have to completely agree with you.  I love Mike&#8217;s comment about AOP or any new technology &#8211; I think Bruce Tate is already working on a Bitter AOP book. :)</p>
<p>It was really refreshing to spend a few hours with Ramnivas Laddad, the author of AspectJ in Action to get his perspective on AOP and how it will change the development landscape.  I walked away with the same impression &#8211; 90% of code will be handled via OO while AOP will tackle the other 10%.</p>
<p>&#8211;vinny</p>
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		<title>By: Dion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2004 16:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Carlos :)

I think that the 10% makes the 90% a hell of a lot cleaner and elegant :)

So, as you said... even a small percentage in LOC or whatever... is a lot of functionality.

Dion
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Carlos :)</p>
<p>I think that the 10% makes the 90% a hell of a lot cleaner and elegant :)</p>
<p>So, as you said&#8230; even a small percentage in LOC or whatever&#8230; is a lot of functionality.</p>
<p>Dion</p>
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