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May 16

A Few Weeks Before JavaOne

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… picture a room in Santa Clara, a few weeks before JavaOne …

  • Jonathan: “JavaOne is coming up. What do we have to announce?”
  • Rich: “Well, the open source piece is almost complete.”
  • J: “Ok, but that is a bit of an anti-climax.. ‘hey… we kinda did it’. What else?”
  • R: “Well, we should probably come out with something that puts forth our platform as a real competitor to Silverlight, Apollo, and the open Web”
  • J: “What do we have?”
  • R: “Hmm. This one guy has an interesting pet project”
  • J: “jMaki? Yeah, we can brand that as the Sun Ajax Framework. I mean, we ship the JDK with Rhino now, so JavaScript is finally… kinda JavaScript”
  • R: “I was actually thinking of another toy…. F3″
  • J: “Ah yeah, that is interesting tech. I like how <> is used instead of != which is so predictable and boring”
  • R: “We can combine it with SavaJe and make it seem like we have a single brand vision”
  • J: “Can we come up with a brand that fluffy and confusing?”
  • R: “Our lawyers thought JavaFX Script would be really confused with JavaScript”
  • J: “Ok, what can we demo?”
  • R: “How about porting a Flash example in 3 days, showing that you can do mouseovers?”
  • J: “Compelling. And noone will notice how slow the full J2SE is on the phones right?”
  • R: “I will make sure I stay on script and don’t make the poor girl in charge of the demo sweat”
  • J: “Great! We shouldn’t think about how JRuby and others can fit in with this should we?”
  • R: “Nah. It is better to send the message that although we have hired core JRuby members, and ship Rhino, we want to push a brand new language on people.”
  • J: “You have done a great job for the last year”
  • R: “You two. And so has the UN”

7 Responses to “A Few Weeks Before JavaOne”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    two <> too

  2. Romain Guy Says:

    You’re not the first one to “complain” about <> instead of != and it’s the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen. Does Ruby suck because it uses the binary OR operator | to delimit closure arguments? Go take a close look at Java FX Script and what it can do, there are some real gems in this language.

  3. Dion Almaer Says:

    Romain,

    It definitely doesn’t suck. I never said it did. I agree there is some truly interesting features in there.

    Obviously <> doesn’t make a language but it DOES say something about a new language written on the JVM, for use by Java developers.

    Cheers,

    Dion

  4. Romain Says:

    Ok, I got your point. But still, this is a minor detail and considering that the language philosophy itself is totally different (Java FX Script is declarative.)

  5. Augusto Says:

    Funny, yet I’m confused about this “Nah. It is better to send the message that although we have hired core JRuby members, and ship Rhino, we want to push a brand new language on people”.

    Really, you think Ruby is a good fit for what FX is trying to achieve with graphics, animation and it’s declarative nature?

  6. Basil Says:

    > it DOES say something about a new language written on the JVM, for use by Java developers.

    JavaFX Script is *not* aimed at Java developers. Seems obvious to many that FX is aimed as a competitor to Flash/Flex/Apollo and MS Silverlight.

  7. James Ward Says:

    A key part of JavaFX and Sun making client-side Java important again is the Consumer JRE. It seems really strange that they hardly talked about the Consumer JRE in the keynote. I wasn’t there, so maybe I’m wrong about that, but from what I heard it was mentioned, but not many details given. I know Chet has since given many details, but why weren’t any of those details in the keynote? Strange.

    -James

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